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Bill & Casey Shedd join us to discuss the difference between environmental protection vs conservation, how to grow a business for 60 years through generational transitions, and why calm discourse is the only path to a heathy and robust ocean ecosystem. Enjoy!

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Sponsor: Cariuma.com/SurfSplendor



CREDITS

Sponsor: Cariuma.com/SurfSplendor

Host, Producer, Writer: David Scales @David_Lee_Scales

Intro Music: Van Morrison, Caledonia Soul Music

Outro Music: Bill Callahan, 747

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