The enigmatic MC returns to discuss the aftermath from his first podcast appearance, Sunny Garcia, the concept of “sustainability” in surfboards, the 2019 Bells Beach Pro, and how confronting vulnerability is allowing him dispel past trauma. It’s a a doozy of an episode. Strap in.

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So much affection at The Boardroom. Come by for day 2.


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Host, Writer, Producer: David Scales @David_Lee_Scales

Intro Music: Gnarls Barkley, A Little Better

Outro Music: Anthony And The Johnsons, Fistfull of Love


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