SPIT! JULY 20, 2017


In today’s episode of Spit! Scott and David recap the greatest surf event in recent history, The 2017 Corona Open J-Bay. Discussions include Filipe’s paradigm shifting performance, the rainstorm of 10’s, the shark frenzy, mid-wave claims to no-fame, and what new CEO Sophie Goldschmidt will bring to the WSL. We hope that you enjoy the show!









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Scott’s: Vacation Island by Morgan Maassen

Vacation Island from Morgan Maassen on Vimeo.

David’s: Greg Long’s Puerto Escondido Tube

Greg Long at Puerto Escondido, from the beach. from STAB on Vimeo.


The judges for giving Frederico a 10 in his final wave against JJF in the quarterfinals.


Stab Magazine for their always inventive photo shoot concept. Enjoy The Dock!

152 thoughts on “SPIT! JULY 20, 2017

  1. fat occy

    Ok. I am going to throw my unsolicited opinion around right now because I am fairly disappointed in Scott’s fading octogenarian memory in regards to the top 5 defining moments in competitive pro surfing. David gets a pass because he is a millenial and everyone knows that their memories are only as long as Noa Deane’s latest snapchat. Here is my list, maybe it can shake loose some of that golden mental ore that is being pinched in Scott’s memory by that too tight visor:
    (not in order of importance)

    1. Tom Curren trials to title. The whole damn year is an amazing moment. Search out his win at the Marui pro in japan from that year on youtube. 3 videos document every heat he won to get from trials to win the event. I hope micro is forcing conner coffin to strap on the oculus rift headset and binge this for hours. A true study in how to win heats, build momentum and peak in a final. The fact he repeated this over an entire year cements his Neo in the Matrix understanding of competitive surfing.

    2. Dave Parmenter paddling out on a log against webbed up neon Dave Mcaulay in the 88 op pro. Revolutionary theater mocking the charade that pro surfing had become. Woke a generation of kids to the idea that something else was out there, beyond the 3 to the beach bikini contest riot zone. A coincidence that 10 years later those very kids grew up, grew beards and made movies like litmus? I think not.

    3. Kelly Slater winning the 1990 Body Glove surfbout – The world was put on notice that everything was about to change. Bud llamas still chafes under the delusion that he won this heat. Not just a changing of the guard, more like a shifting of consciousness. Kind of funny that Curren won his first pro contest at trestles same age as Kelly. Funny.

    4. Martin Potters 1989 world title. By his own accord he toned down his surfing to win the title. Setting the stage for legions of mediocre pro’s for generations to come, from Ben Dunn to Adriano he proved that under pro surfings structure boring can win. Sad that surfing’s wild child had to fall so far in his search for legitimacy.

    5. Dane Reynolds destroying Parko in the 2010 snapper contest. Dane the destroyer, put his boot on Joel’s neck and defined aggressive radical surfing for at least a decade. Safety swoops versus going for it 100%, I would rather watch Dane’s failures every time. The fact that his 2010 performance would probably score a 10 in todays WSL says something about Dane, and the WSL.

    Yours truly.
    Fat Occy.

  2. Bernardo

    On the next Grit, you should talk about Joel Tudor and whether or not he’s a dick. He sure seems like a jerk to me.

  3. Alex

    Really like Scott’s idea of a kind of Webby awards. How do we get that started?
    Also, the Jaddy profile was excellent.

  4. Dan

    For Chas…if he is now monitoring here

    Jenny Garth is neither sexy nor popular. Paraphrase from Welcome to Paradise…. Hilarious

    Chas, the listeners might be interested in your comparative view on Oregon versus California surf and surf life (since your are from Oregon, I think). Beyond the obvious cold water and rain. How do the better breaks, typical surfers, risk trade offs, general communities compare.

  5. miguel

    hey ,really fun cast, you too make also a good cast partners.
    I have a challenge for you thats going to be even harder than getting kelly..
    Get an WSL judge an interview him..or even better get Porta and interview him..dare?

  6. Danny

    David, Chas,
    Elephant in the room. If we don’t want to seem misogynist and “patriarchal”, where is the testimony from the WOMEN ON TOUR! What do THEY WANT? I want a top 20 testimony. “What do YOU feel is the best move?”. Repeatedly speaking on the “investigative reporter” aim, where’s the on the record testimony from the inside out…as opposed to the alternative. Let’s see it.

  7. Joe Momma

    Thanks for covering Tin’s new movie. Chaz has a point that there’s a space for all types of film. I think Expensive Porno was better but this was a fun one to add to the collection. Having Kim Gordon in it is a bonus. And a Sonic Youth song was in there, which isn’t Jazz. Btw, good for you on getting on a log and being a bit more open minded.

  8. Chris Jenkins

    Hi David,
    First off, East coast of New Zealand is getting consistent fun waves at present. A great autumn with warm Pacific Ocean water temps firing up lots of storm action. Unusual but we’re loving it.
    Right. Thanks, David for the podcast. Listen to it regularly as I drive out to the coast for surf. Love the style, content and the way you and Scott interact and contribute. Bummed me out to hear the bit of friction over naming/ownership in ep. 162 but this was more than compensated for by your classy response.
    Hope the rest of 2017 treats you well and always assume you’ll have a place to crash plus surf guide if you ever find yourself in Whangarei, Northland, New Zealand.

  9. Gazza

    You might be suprised to check Parkos rankings post world title.

    “he floated in the bottom teens and twenties of the tour”.

    The truth is that after his title he went, 3rd, 6th, 13th and 9th.

    1. mark

      Interesting interview with Jeff McCallum, really enjoyed it. Why no discussion about design principles that he feels work or don’t work? Design theory such as bottom contours, rail \ edges, channel bottoms, flex, resins, materials etc…. would have liked to get his opinion on these topics.

  10. B Mac

    Q, Guess why the girls didn’t tube ride like Rochelle Ballard in (whenever)?

    A, There was no tubes out there like Rochelle Ballards sessions in (whenever).

    1. DS Post author

      Eh, not entirely true. Tati found them, she just didn’t make them. Also, in the VERY next heat, no less than 5 minutes later, Italo got blown out of a thick one. One major thing that I always forget to bring up when we discuss the women, on bigger days they seem to constantly be out of position. When the proper sets come, they are caught duckdiving. That happened repeatedly in the Fiji final and it certainly happened throughout the Peahi Challenge.

      1. B Mac

        Ok Tati found the perfect 8 foot peeling tubes like Ballards bombs (on the messed uo morning sickness 6 foot day).

        I can’t really go anywhere with that.

        1. DS Post author

          Again, not an apples to apples comparison, but the girls did blow an opportunity. That said, Tati totally charges and has put on unbelievable performances in the past, especially in barreling waves. 2 years ago in France (or was it Portugal) when it was solid 8′ beachbreak closeouts and she went out there at got a 10; super sick barrel and end slam. And her GoPro Wave of the (whatever) winning entry at Cloudbreak last year. I’m a big fan of hers so I feel like I unfairly marginalized her on the pod, but without a doubt, her and Courtney blew a real opportunity in Fiji this year.

  11. Danny

    David, Chas,
    Elephant in the room. If we don’t want to seem misogynist and “patriarchal”, where is the testimony from the WOMEN ON TOUR! What do THEY WANT? I want a top 20 testimony. “What do YOU feel is the best move?”. Repeatedly speaking on the “investigative reporter” aim, where’s the on the record testimony from the inside out…as opposed to the alternative. Let’s see it.

  12. Bernardo

    I like that Scott says he doesn’t mention surf spots in his “values” thing, then he goes on to name like 5 San Diego spots later in the the episode

  13. G

    Scott and David,

    Thanks for keeping us entertained.

    Just wanted to make a comment regarding Scott’s choice of “blue sky” by the Allman Brothers Band to play out the show in memory of the recently deceased Greg Allman.
    I agree with Scott that it is possibly one of the best Allman Brothers songs ever. It is a beautiful song with an amazing solo and will always be one of my absolute favorites.
    However one must note that Greg Allman doesn’t actually sing that song. The vocals are by guitarist Dickey Betts who also wrote the song.
    Interestingly it was one of Duane Allman last recordings before his untimely death.
    Not bashing on ya Scotty. As a north county local I love hearing your insite and perspective regarding our little slice of heaven. Hearing you share you knowledge of North County history and present day gossip is my favorite part of the show.

    Keep up the good work,


    1. DS Post author

      G, great call. And in Scott’s defense, he did state those exact facts before started recording. He argued, “Blue Sky is one of my favorite tracks, but Gregg only sings backup vocals”, etc. I don’t often give Bassy his due credit (nor will I make a habit of it), but it sounds like his passion and love for the Allman Bros may only be rivaled by yours G. Cheers!

  14. Josh Hamler

    So I just wanted to say that I’ve never been a Wilko fan…until his Rd 3 heat against Pupo. Didn’t think he could surf frontside until I saw the heat. Thought it was all backside snaps. But I was impressed. He was next level. Also Italo is probably the most exciting guy to watch on tour. Loved how he took it to Medina.

    1. DS Post author

      Josh, I totally agree with both statements! Wilko has really won me over. Even after his super impressive start last season, I was reserved my approval. But he’s steadily put in impressive performances and you’re right, that Round 3 heat was kind of a confirmation that he’s a legitimate threat in any conditions. #GoWilko!! but also #GoOWen. And Italo is just an absolute freak. So exciting. What a great time to be a fan!

  15. frank

    Hey guys, been listening to a few shows after I stumbled into the podcast world. Really enjoy Surf Splendor shaper discussions and the profile pieces. I did hear about 10 minutes of the dialogue between David Lee Roth Scales and Scott Bass about Down the Line radio, property rights, etc. YES, it is true that Scott has been hosting Down the Line for 10 years or whatever, but there is also a reason why I have not listened to a single show in its entirety in those 10 years. Bass is an ass. Keep up the great work, and put Scott’s mic on mute for even better programming.

  16. SHAN

    Honestly, I just want to hear the “Spit” podcast but it looks like its at risk of being subsumed by the David Scales Conglomerate. Kudos to David for putting in the work but I’d like to see recognition of your joint dynamic as the marquis set to tune-in on.

  17. Adam

    Enjoyed the show as always; new name is ok but in my opinion it did not need fixing. Surprised no Orange County shark update? Or is it “no sharks in Orange County” surf on! Nice of Laird to provide material for the next show.

    1. J

      Why did the name need changing? I don’t get it. And why do you keep saying we this and we that in regards to the Boardroom Show. You need stop frothing on Scott’s market share.

  18. Paul-Louis Louw

    Interesting discussion on CT spots and some valid points, but you cannot say Portugal or France doesn’t produce, last year alone Portugal was incredible and one of the most entertaining events of the entire year!
    Would be rad to see an event in Asia.

  19. miguel

    Hi there!
    So I like the format and the host was really amusing.
    Its strange because i don’t like Cote´s podcast l, i don’t know if its the commercials interruptions or the rhythm or the format.I guess I will give him another try.
    Anyway two hours have past quick and i can´t wait for another.
    thanks !

  20. Dean

    Hi, I haven’t listened to the latest episode yet but saw it drop into my podcasts. Before listening, I wanted to add my 2 cents… I’ve been listening to the podcast for a few years now (it was definitely before De Souza claimed his world title) and wanted to say that this podcast has been so important to my daily work commute in getting my mind back in the water and the waves and less on all of the stress, complexity and frustrations of everything else in life. Hands down the premiere surf podcast out there!!
    From my perspective I love the David/Scott surf news combo but have always valued David’s opinions because they seem to be less ego driven and quite humble etc. Sometimes I find myself coming to the same thoughts and evaluations as David (as if spoken on behalf of the general public instead of the individual). In addition, I always feel like he gives direction to the podcast, finger on the pulse with latest up to date news, and very well prepared (how many episodes have included no thought from Scott on the duke and kook section – just as an example). It is quite noticeable how much more energy and time is put into making sure the show is a success and then the process of developing a monetization model that seems to be very fair to all (including the listeners!!).
    Anyway, keep up the good work. I honestly think there would be many suitable co-hosts that could run the podcast with him. Shred on.

    1. Mitch

      The difference is probably due to Scott having run these podcast or radio for many years. Maybe that’s why the difference in energy. The dynamic is that Scott is stuck in the punk rock Pennywise era of surfing – which is still there – look at the mullet style hairdo of Mikey Wright, whereas David is up to date with the current jazz vibe culture that is unfolding at the present. Both sides of surfing are still there and maybe this is the nice balance between David and Scott that speaks to the full variety of listeners.

  21. Adam

    Can you say thanks to Todd. Deleted Facebook from my phone and disconnecting from socials to get more done.

  22. Ryan

    Agree with Ditch AND JD. Putting aside both (a) the legacy of Scott/Down the Line AND (b) the technical expertise and professional polish David has added to the show (interviews, reliable updates, SEO, production value, etc.), both of which everyone (David and Scott, included) seem to readily acknowledge here, it becomes a conversation of brand strength. And, solely from a brand perspective, everyone also seems to agree that Surf Splendor is the stronger (better ranking, more subscribers, etc.) and more consistent (SurfSplendorPodcast.com; @surfsplendor; hello@surfsplendorpodcast.com) of the two, vs. Scott’s various Down the Line/Boardroom Show/Surfboard Show/Surf Talk San Diego brands. If the goal is to increase the listening audience, Surf Splendor seems to present you all with the best opportunity to do so. Come on, guys. Work it out – perhaps by finally paddling out together for that long-discussed surf…

  23. Griffin

    Hey Guys,
    I think it was lame for Scott to kind of ambush you the way he did, but maybe it is time for a change? Scott obviously had a thing going for a while there, so why not just call the episodes you do together “Down the Line surftalk whatever” and skip your intro. Seems like there should be a reasonable solution in here somewhere.

  24. JD

    This program name issue has been brewing for a while, at every surf news show introduction and wrap up I sense a little tension. Obviously you guys are not talking about it outside of the podcast which is why it came to a head “on the air”. It’s time to get together and either come up with a clever way to meld the names, rename the surf news segment or adopt one or the other. Then just move on.
    I agree with Ditch, Surf Splendor is easy to find and well ranked. The only reason I know about Down The Line is that I live in So-Cal and listened to Scott back when he was on the radio. When I was a kid my brothers and I would just duke it out or a more civilized approach is what I used to do with my daughters when they were little; make them sit on the couch and hold hands until they were friends again. Either way set the egos aside and work it out.

  25. Kevin Walker

    Hi guys
    Personally I see there are two shows Surf Splendor is your excellent interviews (more please) and Down the Line is Scott’s baby (I’ve listened to them for years with all his various co-hosts and love them)
    It would be a shame if you guys split over the name, you both bring very different qualities to the Surf Talk show and that’s what makes them entertaining. Especially talking as an old surfer who doesn’t care much for the WSL but is willing to listen through all the contest stuff

    1. Dean D

      Totally agree.

      Firstly love the show and I think you’re a great team.

      David; you have Surf Splendor which is strong and will continue to exist regardless of your relationship with Scott.

      Yet what you guys do together, I always think of and assume many other listeners think of as Down the Line. Your differing qualities are what make this show interesting and unique which is why I think Down the Line is a more suited name, I don’t think the name “Surf News” gives you guys the credit you deserve. Anyone can present ‘news’, but you guys present a one of a kind show that I personally feel depends on both of you being part of it and departs from a traditional news format anyway.

      Also from a listeners perspective it is confusing, not because the podcast is broadcast in multiple locations but that you both name it different things. The situation as others have pointed out seems ego driven, could you not just say on your broadcast “Surf Splendor Presents; Down the Line Radio” or something.

  26. DC

    Been listening for a few years and was always confused why the show was on 2 different platforms. You goes make a great team so don’t let this issue cause any waves.

  27. brek

    Just call those *episodes* Down the Line. It’s Scott’s legacy. Not sure why this is a big deal. The whole discussion didn’t even feel that confrontational until the postscript at the end… Unless you weren’t being genuine when you said the reason you didn’t want to call it that was out of respect for Scott? If he says he’d be honored if you used his name… What is the issue, exactly?

  28. Grown Grom

    I’ve been listening to Scott’s show since the inception. From “In the Lineup” (c.2005) to “Down the Line” to today.

    It has evolved. It isn’t Scott’s show, it isn’t David’s.
    It’s both your show and a name change would be appropriate
    (You should each keep your respective shows for content that isn’t presented jointly).

    I like…. “Dropping In, Surf News” as in:
    “This is Scott Bass, Dropping in on David Lee Scales, with this week’s Surf News” 😉

    What ever you call it … keep the Team podcast going. You guys have good chemistry.

  29. Adam

    New name, easy as….
    “Down the line, surf news”
    Pays homage to both. No ego just fair….

    Love both of your work guys.

  30. Ditch

    Great show again guys, in spite of the blow-up! I guess it had to be aired, I just thought it would be done figuratively – not literally!

    My take is that, being from Oz, I only found the show (Splendour) due to it’s being searchable on iTunes (and ranked well). To my delight, I’ve found it to be the most entertaining and informative surf podcast out there and look forward to each new episode.

    I was a little confused by the doubling up with Down The Line, but can totally understand why you’d want to keep it seperate Scotty. I’m sure you guys have your own seperate followings and see no reason to merge. David, your solo interview shows are fantastic, but I love it when the two of you come together to do Surf News. I hope you continue to do it for years to come because your banter is great and you have great chemistry together.

    Scott – your account names and addresses are confusing, all over the place and need a full-on overhaul. For this and other reasons I could see you guys joining forces under one banner and taking the surf podcast world by storm.

    I think you guys need to smoke da peace pipe and actually go for a surf together.

    Re: last episode – great updates on the nuclear problem at San Onofre. I hope to hear more about ways we can help to stop that crazy scheme!

  31. Dave from Marboura

    Hi David (and Scott)
    Im a regular listener to the show. Best surf podcast out there and I have donated. My take on the naming rights debate is that this has been Scott’s baby from the start. Sure David you have taken it to another level, but the reality is that Scott oozes credibility on this subject. He is doing it tough on the IT front at the moment and when a mate asks you for a favour then you would want a pretty good reason for knocking him back. David no such reason exists. You are getting more traffic on surf splendour because people like me are only going there to look for the podcast they used to get from Scott’s wobbly platforms. So instead of calling it ‘surf news’ (pretty boring name anyway) limit the confusion for all and keep surfing down the line.

    Dave from Maroubra

  32. Casey

    The beef had to be sorted out, it’s definitely confusing that you guys run 2 separate websites and podcasts. I’ve only come to Surf Splendor because I know David is a lot more tech savvy and has all the latest updates on current podcasts. Would be best if you had one source to direct listeners to rather than splinter your fans into two groups.

    Please do some research on Joe Turpel, where the hell did he go???

  33. SurfisFun

    Thanks for the great podcast. I’m an early podcast adapter and have been listening to Down the Line radio from the early surfer mag days. I may have listened to all shows Scott have distributed via Itunes!

    The Surf News or Down the Line format is Scott’s baby and he did a nice job raising it but prior to joining forces with David Down the line was pretty much dead. If I remember correctly, he may have even done a coupe of pretty substandard shows on YouTube before going on a hiatus.

    David has done an excellent job making the show better than ever and the show would not be where it is today without Dave.

    I can see both sides of the issue. I think Scott should be thankful for David saving his baby from dieing and Dave should be thankful for all the work Scott has done in the past.

    I think Scott was on target when he said it was most likely his ego speaking, or something like that.

    The bottom line is keep up the good work, who cares how the show is called. Looks like you guys need to get in the water and go surf.


  34. Joe Momma

    Great find in getting Cyrus and dope work on hosting a screening. What he does with film is so great. Do me a favor, enough of asking the same travel questions (what surf trips do you have coming up? etc). It’s sounding whack and doesn’t feel organic. Let the conversation flow, don’t force it so much.

  35. Timb

    Any REAL surfer who has the skills, money and connections to drag the WSL into a position to sell has already sailed off into the sunset on a luxury yacht and is moored at a killer empty reefbreak surfing themselves stupid and not caring about making something sellable for Ziff !!

    Let me know where you’re going for your surf trip …. so I can avoid twenty guys paddling out at the same time ….. unless it’s a private secret spot of course then it’d be worth it

  36. Bernardo

    Hi David,
    I couldn’t help but notice how many times Scott said “he” or “guy” when talking about that job description. Yeah, I’m sure it will probably end up being a man in the end, but we were just 70,000 votes from having a woman President, is it so hard to imagine a woman running a surf league?
    Scott’s lazy male chauvinism is getting old. I know it is unintended, but isn’t that the worst kind? He talks a lot about being kind, positive , generous, tolerant and loving, maybe it’s time to add ‘thoughtful’ to that list?

    1. high pockets

      I’ve got to second this comment. I’m pretty sure the job description doesn’t specify a guy so why are you assuming it has to be one.

      Love the podcast though :)

  37. Dave

    Hey gang what’s up!
    Hey, it’s been 3 weeks since you last dropped an Ep, and the long weekend is almost upon us (which means roadtrip, which means podcast time baby!)

    How’s things in sunny so-cal? Oz is getting plenty of swell (except bells, come on you lazy southern ocean!)

  38. joe momma

    It took you a “video edit” to realize these guys don’t sleep in tents to surf remote spots? C’mon don’t be so blind about the fact that the top of the CT surfers are millionaires and haven’t slummed it in ages. These Red Bull/Billabong/RipCurl/Put Another Mainstream Company Name Here surfers are straight whack and out of touch. More of Craig Anderson, Dion Agius, Noah Deane, Alex Knost and such.

    Also, enough of the surfing industry renaming “video parts” to “edits’. That sounds straight up cornball. You want to move away from skating so much but the truth is it’s more innovative and influence your “sport” by the minute. So the surf industry needs to stop playing itself like a 30 year old game of Defender. I wonder what they are gonna start calling kickflips when people start doing them in contests… flipper flappers. This entire industry needs to get with it and stop being so damn corny.

    Bring back more interviews already.

    1. Swashbuckler

      Ow yes, give us more of alex knost because he is so interesting. Can we start with the art show comprised of his old sweaters in frames? I mean, where does he go from there? Ah ha, I have it! Dirty adult diapers, used free base equipment, and skid marked bandannas…on mannequins. By the way, don’t come here and harsh my mellow.

  39. Deivid Johnson

    Sweet Podcast Dahveed,

    So Slater is looking the best we have seen in the past few years………could this be in part due to his wave pool and an ability to have a super consistent non crowded training ground??


  40. Fiascosurf

    Forget about Ronnie & Pete ——- if you can get Pottz to stop calling every WCT surfer a “Kid” — the broadcasts would be so much more enjoyable. Is there any other commentator in any other professional sport that consistently refers to its top athletes as “Kids” —— come on Pottz…….enough is enough. Don’t let this turn into a drinking game. Viva L’Hop

  41. Paul-Louis Louw

    As a fellow South African I have to be honest the edit quality was crap and getting ‘Nothing Else Matters’ so wrong in the credits, cringeworthy. Also don’t see Jordy jamming to Mr Crowley, pretty evil the real Mr Crowly. BUT THE SURFING in Cape Town and Jbay is insane, especially those barrels in Cape Town!

  42. Juan Pablo

    Hey David, thanks for the shows and all the content on the page. As always, really great.

    Regarding Jordy´s edit. Its a good watch except I had to mute the audio. The music is just completely out of tune with his surfing in my opinion.

    Thanks for the hard work!


  43. Jeremy

    Aloha Dave-

    Just wanted to take the time to agree with you on the judges being isolated. I’m not aware of the inner workings of the judges booth. But it seems crazy to me that judges would be able to review scores or have any idea what is ‘needed to win’.

    Thanks for keeping me entertained on my work commute!


  44. Adam Ripplinger

    I just wanted to respond to Alex Smith’s “insight” about low viewership on Facebook Live streaming of the events. I personally think a little too much was read into the numbers. I think most people just watch on the WSL website as they always have and have no reason to switch to Facebook. I think there’s also a very low awareness of the ability to watch on Facebook on top of the low incentive/desire to. I’d much rather on WSL’s site over Facebook to avoid the messages popping up from people noticing I’m online and the notifications etc. As for that being reason/justification for Samsung to pull out as a sponsor, I don’t see the correlation there, but I think has something to do with the difficulty in attracting numbers particularly in America when such a vast percent of the population will never surf because so much of the population lives inland, nowhere near a beach, compared with that of Australia where surf in much more ingrained in the national relevance. I wish surfing got the attention I personally believe it deserves here in the states, especially me living in Denver, CO right now being one of the depressingly landlocked. Though I do travel to photograph the events in CA (www.ampimagery.com/surf).

    Anyway, love the podcast and hearing everyone’s perspective and thoughts on everthing. Being in Denver makes me crave the conversation even more. Thanks for all the hard work you put into it!

    – Adam

    1. alex_smith

      According to Scott Hargrove CMO of the WSL there are approximately 120 million surf fans worldwide.

      500k followers on You Tube and
      2,3million followers on instagram

      sorry, but over three years this is a bad result

  45. Alex

    Hi guys, just wanted to comment on that Kelly vs Medina heat, just throw some questions, really quick
    Isn’t this lack of variety going on for years now? Wasn’t that a strategy that utilize judging criteria to protect big guns from newbies? I’m thinking here Parkinson against John Johm in Keramas, Mick winning Lowers on snaps, that kind of thing
    Would this be controversial without the Medina factor?
    Is really Medina the biggest and apparently only asshole on tour, or is just that everyone else is so nice and mellow? Is really Adriano the worst surfer in the world? Is it only a coincidence that they are both all of this and world title contenders?
    Would this Brazilian vs native English speakers controversy end at some point? It’s hard to enjoy the tour for those watching from outside, not being part of that rivalry
    Love the show, keep up the good work!
    Saludos from Spain

  46. Brett Mac

    David, I believe you dug real deep to dislike the Jordy edit. Even going so far as to imagine that all the cars and camps on the beach at Skeleton Bay were there just to film Jordy. Quite imaginative I must say. Did it even occur to you that when that left works that hundreds of people turn up? If you are so jaded that you need to invent scenes then it might be time to take a step back.

  47. miguel

    Hey David! Thanks for the nice surprise of a new podcast.
    I am sorry but i have to disagree with you on Jordy´s edit..
    If you think about it he has been loyal to his quote of making people want to surf after the film.
    Yeah the airs aren´t as great but the waves, except for JB, aren´t great either, and thats what has motivated me!Those turns on that kind of waves man!the airs on the Europe part in the smallest conditions for such a big guy..just inspiring.
    I personally hate most of what youth like edits because i can´t relate at all to that surfing whereas hacks and manly carves definitely turn me on 😉
    In fact i wasn’t going to surf today but hehe what the hell.

    thanks again for the podcast !

  48. Bruce3Music

    Hey y’all

    Just discovered this podcast – and i’m loving it – heres why!
    I live in Austin TX (grew up on the water, but had to move here years ago for my business), and I’ve been a professional surfing fan as long as I can remember. BUT I’ve got no one to talk surfing with. I watch every CT event religiously and unfortunately STAB comment board seems to be my only outlet to communicate with other fans (and you know what kind of circus that is).
    You guys had me as an immediate fan as soon as you noticed that Blakey was being a dick to Pete Mel. Dude – wow. It was so obvious, I wanted to know what was going on… I wanted to know if he was bitter he lost Ross. Maybe Ronnie just doesn’t like Pete and was happy to have him in the water for a quick assessment of the conditions. Or MAYBE Pete Mel just knows a lot more about surfing and conditions and hasn’t earned Ronnies respect yet. I don’t know, but it’s shit like that that is fascinating to me as a fan… The behind the scenes stuff, the controversies, ya know? So I’m stoked that you guys can recap an event and keep things like that high in the conversation.

    Cheers from Austin TX


  49. Adam Ripplinger

    Hey guys, first off LOVE the podcast. Big fan, though only recently found it I’m definitely regular listener now. Absolutely loved the Sal chat, huge fan of that guy. I’m writing to comment on @boardroomshow’s lack of watching the Roxy Pro, or women’s surfing in general. I’m massively on your side of this and for two main reasons, 1) that especially in the last 2-3 years the women’s talent has absolutely skyrocketed, so to his point of watching “great” surfing, he is definitely missing out on great surfing, and 2) that as a surf fan in general, and to the core of who we are, how can you not want to absorb as much content as you can, especially at the top level of talent, be it men or women. These women are fierce competitors (Steph, Lakey, Carissa – though her high level of sweetness/humbleness/overall incredible person might throw you) and to miss out on watching them perform is a huge disservice.

    Keep up the awesome work, really appreciate the amazing content!

  50. miguel

    Hello guys,
    Just a quick word to thank you for the podcast.
    Its quite amazing how someone from the Canary Islands can end up listening to your cast but I can honestly say its just awesome.
    As a surfer from Spain, in which football(soccer) its the one and only sport that gets coverage , getting my ears on to sheer stoke info and comments about my favorite thing in the world is just pure gold.

    keep it going!

  51. Dave

    I didn’t get to watch as much of the Quik Pro as I would have liked, but one of the moments I did tune into was hearing Ronnie and Pete commentate. I missed the start of the banter but I remember Ronnie apologising to Pete for something he had just said, and then followed it up by saying “I’m used to my mate Ross being in here, no offence Pete but I just miss him.” Did anyone else catch that? It didn’t sound malicious in any way, and Pete seemed to laugh it off.
    However I remember way back when Ross and Ronnie first started doing the commentary together, and as I recall Ronnie used to be a little shirty with Ross. They would have funny little tussles, flatly contradicting each other many times, leaving the other speechless. I thought it was hilarious and mentioned it to my fantasy surf buddies on many occasions. I guess over the years they grew to respect each other. I’ll miss Ross in the booth, but hey if you’re gonna replace him with anyone, who better than Pete Mel!

  52. Alex_Smith

    Dear David and Scott,

    enjoyed the Quicksilver Pro Recap. I’m a huge fan of the show since day one of Scott’s podcast “Down the Line”. Iam from Munich, Germany, and this show makes the landlocked life in Munich a little more enjoyable.

    Here is my little humble note for the Snapper Event, which you guys have not talked about.

    Have you guys noticed the low numbers of viewers on Facebook watching the Snapper Event live? For the first time you can actually see the viewer numbers and it is an absolutely joke. The highest number I saw on the Facebook live feed was like 1200 views at the same time, the lowest number was about 100, that’s ridiculous from a marketing and sales point of view. No wonder why Samsung kicked out.
    So, I’ve checked the social media account of the WSL, they have about 2.2 million followers on Instagram and about 360k subscribers on their YouTube channel. Believe it or not, but the Kelly vs Gabriel Exchange vid on their You Tube Channel had only 1,4k views. For comparison, Casey Neistat (Scott: Who??) has 6.7 million subscribers on You Tube. Jon Olson, former pro ski freestyler, has a daily vlog with about 350k viewers per vlog per day and he’s not even getting free products of companies. Why the heck should Samsung or any other company throw any money on the WSL. It makes no sense, at all.

    How can the WSL pay even the price money for the men and women CT? Combined it is about 1million dollar per event. How can the WSL pay the salary of the commentary guys and the rest of the team? We all know that Strider comes from a wealthy background he’s probably just there for fun, but what gets Ronnie Blakey or Peter Mel paid? No wonder why Ross kicked out.

    On their Website there is no official Sponsor shown. Samsung, Airbnb, and all the others kicked out for good reason. On the WSL website, under Sponsorship, the WSL states the following:
    The World Surf League: A Partnership Like No Other. Why?
    — We understand and engage with millennials each and every day around the globe. This powerful, growing and highly influential audience is different from previous generations and we communicate with them in a voice that is both authentic and highly aspirational
    — We are in a growth business. Fortune estimates by 2017 the global surf industry will generate more than $13 billion. Worldwide participation is growing by +30 percent annually.”
    In light of the above social media numbers, this whole sponsorship deal is a joke. The WSL will go done soon. My prediction is that 2017 is their last year. By the way the Head of Marketing of the WSL should get fired.
    Sorry to be the hater here, but I luv competing surfing too much and I want to receive the best content out of it. The WSL does not providing it. It is time that the Red Bull Media House takes over the whole show to make it way better. Sal where are you?
    PS: Iam waiting for my payout, David 😉

  53. sox

    awesome episode, as usual. and just a small thing, i would argue that kelly debating round 2 minutia on instagram with podcast hosts is the opposite of being unfocussed. if he were liking photos of models or taking conference calls about fabric samples, to me that would be a lack of focus.

  54. Bradley


    David Lee Scales!
    Absolutely enjoyed the Sal interview! What a talented, hard working, salt of the earth kind of guy. I have always enjoyed his uplifting, clear headed, honest, and humorous approch to commentating, but now with all of his history on the table, I truly respect him 10 fold.

    Scott Bass!…….. Hipstergram Icon = DEVON HOWARD!!!!
    Hey, at least you looked good while looking him in the face to acknowledge that two wrongs don’t make a right. He wasn’t completely robbed of a beauty. Maybe next time he will think twice about committing the initial wrong. Life is a delicate pleasure filled of checks and balances. Why should surfing be any different? Why should a Hipstergram icon feel so entittled as to be insulted by your courteous reminder of one of the most important foundational elements of the surfing code…… THOU SHALL NOT BURN ONE ANOTHER!


  55. Tim

    I’ve been listening to the podcast for almost a year now. The latest episode with Sal Masekela was pure gold. I could probably listen to Dave and Sal chat for 7 hours straight. Well done guys!

  56. Jay

    Dropped down for the $5 monthly payment. Used to listen to Down the Line and lost it for awhile when it went away at some point. You guys make a good team and appreciate the content. Maybe sometimes riffing too much off topic but that’s all good. Enjoy the interviews you do without Scott as well. Keep ’em coming.

    As for the major concept, I agree they need to be four different waves. My majors would be 1. Pipe (hollow left reef), 2. Fiji (reef pass), 3, Lowers (cobblestone right and left), and 4, J-Bay (right point). Beach break is missing from this however.

    Scott, keep your dream alive. Nat won the trials at Snapper and is on his way back to the tour for sure. Word Title hopes alive! North America and Nor Cal needs to represent.

  57. Dave

    Hi guys,
    Well you’ve ruined every other surf podcast out for me, thanks. The only other which I enjoyed as much was ‘Ain’t That Swell’ by Vaughn Blakey and Jed Smith from Sydney and they seem to have inexplicably disappeared from podcasting. I think the fact that they secured a sponsorship from Corona may have had something to with it. Another ‘cast starting to gain some ground here in Oz is called Lipped and they are doing quite well with some backing from CoastalWatch (an Aussie surfcam/forecasting/news site, bringing you such treats as Weak Wrap).
    But you guys take the cake. Great format, great content and great chemistry between you two. Even if your WSL fantasy tips are way off, which is most of the time.
    A couple of points:
    1). Parko is – in my humble eyes – the undisputed style KING! His surfing is textbook fast, fluid and free, with buckets of power to boot. Ando be damned!
    2). The philosophical “growing the pond” debate is well worthy of digging further into.
    3). Question: if you had to write a film screenplay about a real life surf story, which character or story would you choose to write about?
    4). I’d like to offer to help rebrand your podcast, even if just visually. Don’t hate me, but it’s a little…tacky.
    5). I’m finally subscribing financially as of today! Love, love, love getting your podcast on the regular to help ease the pains of city commuting. Your surf news is an epic weekly wrap of all the things I wanted to know about the current state of surfing but didn’t have the time to do myself. Keep it up!

    PS. I’m also going to post this review on iTunes.

  58. Bradley

    David & Scott……YEAH GUY!

    I am a not so long time, but avid listener of “the POD”. I have just about finished listening to all 154 episodes of SurfSplendor. I cannot thank you enough for 2 things:

    1) I am a Santa Barbarian that works in Los Angeles and surrounding areas in the TV and commercial industry as a camera assistant. I tend to spend many hours commuting back and forth from Home to LA on “runs of work”, and within the greater Los Angeles area when working on various projects. I find the (Surfsplendor/Down the Line Radio) surf news episodes completely entertaining, extremely engaging, and a total escape from the monotonous task of the commute. For a long time there has been a void in my life in terms of having an interest in the surf industry/competiton complex, due to my lack of desire in keeping up with the chaotic nature of the progression of aerial surfing. I have to say that through your SURF NEWS episodes I have developed a new passion for engaging in, and relating to the whole competiton genre of surfing, as well as having a unearthed appreciation for all the different personalities within the CT & QS. Both of your opinions are insightful, spot on, and ring true to my surfing sensibility. Like many listeners have stated before, I too find myself laughing aloud in the car, and aguring each others points to myself like a mental patient with schizophrenia.
    I cannot wait to start out the new WSL 2017 season, watching the drama unfold and to relive it through the podcast on the road headed somewhere.

    2) I love listening to all the board reviews, also all of the trials, tribulations, and details of your personal surfing lives. I too am a ride everything guy, from a 12′ paddle surf vehicle, to a 9’11” nose rider log, channel bottom single fins, to high performance SUP’s, and lots of shortboards in between. It’s refreshing to hear your guys take on the state of surfing and how to gracefully navigate ones lineup. Listening to the one on one interviews that you, David Lee Scales construct are such insightful and transcending pieces. They really help put this whole complex surfing lifestyle into a tangible, and manageable term for a 47 yr old grom that still spends 95% of his conscious state thinking of the next go, or the last score. It’s the human touch of these episodes that further validate my path as a husband, father, professional, and uber stoked surfer.
    I really do appreciate all of your guys efforts to make this special current event, and historical platform happen for the surfing community. Every chance I get I am pushing the Podcast onto all of my surfing friends and acquaintances.

    Mahalo for your Aloha!

    Bradley Rochlitzer

  59. Miguel

    Hi guys!i just can say:thank god!finally! Why the fuck I didn’t know of your podcast existence? I first heard of it two days ago on beachgrit,checked it out and now I can finally fill that hole losers here on Spain fill with football (soccer) ??????

    Thanks a lot for the show from the Canary Islands .

  60. Big D

    Long time listener and big fan of Down the Splendor. I every so often read comments asking for more interview during the news episodes and I’m asking for the opposite. I like listening to the both of you ramble on, I don’t even follow the WSL that intently but enjoy listening to you get outraged by Bassy’s old man hot takes. Please keep everyone posted regarding the surf tip and let Scott know that I’m boycotting the Boardroom Show till Ricky Carroll is allowed to defend his multiple championships a’ la the Masters.

  61. Danny

    Long time listener. A big thank you for all you do from a big fan.

    Loved the segment on the Mexican sewage spillage. I know you want the show to be broad based and I am not expecting a California-centric conversation by any means. The point is, your conversations about the shark culling or sewage leaking or privatization issues let people engage and learn about something that they might be able to help or at least assist through consciousness in shifting towards an actual prolonging of SURFING, not the SURF INDUSTRY. Progressive thinking! For as much as you guys both claim to not “care” about clothing and apparel and “fashion,” an awful lot of the show is focused on it. I surf a good bit in El Salvador and to touch on Scott’s tee-shirt story; it doesn’t matter who’s logo you’re wearing when it’s covered in shit, and you’re in a hospital gown anyway. Keep up the great work, I just think with all your experience and knowledge you can toe the line a bit closer to enabling stimulating conversation with a tangible positive outcome. -Danny

  62. Joe Momma

    Been listening to your podcast. Most of the times you are on it. Work on more interviews and less of you two goons talking top each other about the jockification of surfing. As with the Former thing I think they proved their point with how you discussed it. With the .xxx issue and their collection… you aren’t their customer at all. They are for a different audience, a new audience (as small as it may be). If you look at the details on the clothing it’s not like the mass manufactured garbage that Ripcurl, Billabong, (insert lame surf brand that isn’t relevant anymore). There’s space for brands like Former more than the other existing brands because the surf audience is more diverse than ever. You can simply reference your interview with Mark Healey when he said that surf brand smiled their audience for too long. You guys said it right, you are not the demo, and maybe that’s a good thing on both sides. Less jocks & goons in the lineup. Less following what mainstream brands do in marketing and more of the zine culture.

    1. joe momma

      BTW, I am 42 with a 7 month old kid. There’s more people like me than you’d believe who don’t want to wear some high tech short that touches my calf. But thanks for the shout out white boys.

  63. Paul-Louis Louw

    Yeah freakin guy(s). Great podcast. I’m a graphic designer and branding is something I’m exposed to and do ALOT and I’m 100% in agreement on FORMER’s brand fail, it’s super confusing. Also Parko style is not anywhere near as iconic as Machado or Ando. I don’t want to look like Parko when I surf, I’d rather look like JJF or Jordy. Keep up the good show.

  64. Ryan Lowe

    Hey guys as always love the podcast and I must confess a dark secret… Im a welder by trade so I consume 40+ hrs of podcast every week and I literally have arguments with my self on who I should give money to… So this week Im getting around to you guys. I save my surfing podcasts for the weekend and the hour commute… I live an hour from the beach but every sat and sun im there 140 days last year. That includes any and all green square days (surfline) after work as long as daylight permits. Just wanted to say thanks so much its like having 2 surf stoked brothers in the car. Scott the eldest set in his ways No matter what he says you know hes honest as ya role your eyes preparing for the back in my day speech. then the super excited younger brother chalk full of stats and where this is all headed. Then Im sitting there quit like middle brothers often thinking to myself well Scotts definitely right there. or David nailed that one. all the while saying nothing (or screaming at the radio lol) anyway Thanks so much for time traveling podcast that gets me to my favorite place and 100% count me in on a surf trip :)

  65. Timb


    On the subject of surf contest coverage, the other guys etc etc ….. I would really enjoy watching a wsl contest with you guys doing a live podcast as commentary, obviously a whole contest would not be feasible but how about doing a final ? It could have an intro, the final then some comments at the end. Failing that I really enjoyed the time you re-scored the final with a judge, maybe you could do something like that again, keep up the good pod !

  66. Adam Baldwin

    You do realise Silvana is back on tour this year?
    She won the last QS of the year in Aus to get back on tour.

  67. Adam Baldwin

    I’m listening at work as i do other stuff, doing council applications to run a school surf contest actually, ironic considering the Titans of Bummer. When I search volcom pipe pro it goes directly to the WSL page, Interesting that you in America goes straight to red bull but here in Aus it goes to WSL….. I wonder why that is…..

  68. SkinnyOccy

    Hey David,
    I always wonder why during many of the contests the commentators on the web stream will send it to a “break” and the screen will cut to another screen which says that the “action will return after the commercial break” (or something like that) but no actual advertisements are shown. Why don’t they show advertising during these breaks to generate revrnue and why do they even bother having those breaks if the web viewers (who are probably the majority of viewers worldwide) don’t even see advertising. On the occasions where they do show ads its the same ad over and over again for the same company. Why don’t they open this time up to other prospective companies who would want to advertise to thousands (or maybe millions) of surfers (and non surfers) worldwide.
    There is plenty of non – surf related companies which I’m sure would love to advertise to such a well defined target audience.
    If they are going to have ad breaks – why don’t they show ads and make some money!

  69. wave whisperer

    Love the NEWS (down the line) pods.

    Occurred to me that WSL and your News Podcast has similar financing issues.

    Ziff will surely be looking at the new models of distributing content through digital Entertainment and Media platforms. Having your own website and distributing content yourself appears to be on the wane, while digital media content is set to grow 80%+ according to PWC with a large percentage of that on hand held devices.

    WSL will no doubt be looking to partner with one or more media platform to supply content while Facebook, Google, Apple or whomever, does advertising and receives a percentage of the profits.

  70. Fat occy

    In regards to your comments on coaches, my thoughts:
    Mick Fanning retires and becomes Julian’s coach in 2017. Under his brilliant tutelage he stokes the blue collar bastard desire that is lurking just underneath julian’s perfectly coiffed mop. Despite Julian’s metrosexual teen vogue appeal, there is a beer swilling/ chris davidson /Eugene Fanning/Australian beast that wants to win over all else …for god sakes he comes from a family of tile setters who worked sixty hours a week to keep him in thrusters and boardies , he owes them goddammit. And who better to enforce the iron, inflexible, repetitive discipline than his real older brother/soul mate mick fanno, for god sakes did you see the tears in Julians eyes when he described the jbay shark bump… he absolutely loves and worships that man. And, Micks dirty secret that won him all the world titles, the fact that behind every yoga ball single focused heat win flits Eugene…Dr Jeckyl waiting for the victory to be unleashed…I cant wait to see the pictures of julian wearing one shoe and soiled briefs, standing on a table, drinking fosters mixed with vomit from the 2017 WSL championship trophy in some backalley gold coast beer pit..

  71. Mike callahan

    You guys are talking about fitness in the new year. Some people you may want to have in show is Cris Mills of surfstrengthcoach.com. He is pretty legit. Also Dr. Goodman of Foundation Training is a surfer. Also remember strength comes from working out and health comes from the kitchen. Love your show and am a devoted listener. Thanks.

  72. Kelly

    Hey big fan here but this comment section should be mentioned for your next Kook award.
    I just listened to the 1/11 episode and had to scroll to the bottom of a very long page under a comment from 2015…really? Maybe have comments for each episode… just sayin

    BTW, January 16 is a Monday not a Saturday as mentioned in the pod. Check yo calendar

    Anyhoo, keep up the good work mates.


  73. chris collier

    I’m on my second podcast and really enjoying it. As a 40 something surfer who has been at it for about 3 years now after moving to southern california, i’m trying soak up as much surf knowledge as possible in a short amount of time and catch up with those who have been at it for much longer. It’s clear that this podcast will be a great resource along the way. At this stage, i consider myself a very low intermediate surfer. I have a quiver of about 6 boards from 9.6 single fin to 6.8 twin fish. I’m comfortable surfing waves up to around 6 feet (California measure, not HI). I’m headed to the the north shore in feb/march timeframe and frankly a little scared the waves will be too much for me. So much has been written about the North Shore vibe and waves but is it possible during that time of hear to find suitable surf at my skill level and away from the fray? Really enjoy the podcast and appreciate the insight.

  74. Drew

    Thanks for all the work on the podcast, this is just ( I hope) a helpful critique. It would be great if you skip Dave’s intro each time (this one went to 9 mins) and instead, just launch right into the podcast with Dave & Scott. Any and everything talked about in the intro can just be organically brought up in the actual podcast.


  75. Bill Rosenblatt

    Scott and David…Bassy knows I’m a long time listener but always love to laugh when you SoCal guys complain about “cold” water and flat spells. Give me a break ! Today in NJ it’s 23 degrees with sustained winds about 20mph…water temp is 47 or so. Flat spells here last weeks on end. I know…one would ask why do people even live or surf here. Good question. BTW Legends Surf Classic in Rincon PR is 1/20/2017
    SHACC director Paul Strauch and PT will be there so should you guys. Keep up the good work and keep bugging us so we can donate to keep this going. Mahalo

  76. Zach Hanner

    Dear David and Scott,

    I’ve been listening to Scott since he was doing the podcast as part of his radio show with Sam George as his co-host. I’ve been through Marty, Baldy, James Pribram and numerous other sidekicks but the dynamic between the two of you is great! Thanks so much for bringing this wonderful, surf-centric content to the web so east coasters like myself can stay abreast of industry goings-on and get some “parking lot gossip” that we wouldn’t be privy to otherwise.

    I wanted to share a story with you since you were talking about Dan Bendiksen on the last episode and in David’s interview with Wayne Rich. I was living in Chapel Hill, NC, in 2000 and my wife worked with a lady whose husband Jerry was an old school SoCal guy from back in the day. We were going to LA for the premier of “The Patriot” (I’m an actor and had a small part in the film) and Jerry said “You should call up Danny. He’d be happy to loan you a board and you can go and duke it out with the crowd at Malibu.” So I gave him a call and went my the Santa Monica fire station where he was one of the Captains of the squad. This big bear of a man shook my hand, gave me a hug and then handed over the keys to his house. He directed me to his shaping room and on the racks was a gleaming, brand-new ten footer. I had no idea he was giving me a new board! At any rate, the day at the ‘Bu was magical and I must have surfed for four hours. I returned the board and left him a thank you note and he replied with a phone call to see how things went. Here’s a guy I’ve never met in my life and he shows me the most aloha I’ve ever experienced. I’ll always remember his generosity and I’ve tried to pay it forward by loaning boards to any of my friends that want to give it a try.

    Thanks again for giving us surf-crazed pod consumers the best surfing podcast out there!

    Mahalo and Aloha,


    One critique. Sometimes it seems that the music you open with (particularly on Scott’s version of the show) stays running underneath your discussions. Is it the music playing at SHAC? Just curious. It’s not horrendous but is noticeable during certain shows. Thanks again!

  77. Rich

    Long time listener here, love your articulation as well as the ying/yang between you and Scott. Just a thought: I enjoyed your short wine talk with Roger Hinds. Perhaps you could do a short 5 minute segment on a wine. Maybe enjoy one with a guest. Hell, it would be fun to hear Scott’s interpretation. Some of the surf world is definitely connected to that especially along the Central Coast and I’m sure in Aus. You seem quite knowledgeable and I bet you have quite a cellar to feature. Keep up the great work, you are definitely a stand out in this platform. So many podcasts just going through the motions. Thanks for the real core content.

  78. Adam Baldwin

    loved this one, especially as it encouraged me to go back to the archives again and track down the carl Ekstrom and donald brink and so many more……..

  79. Ian blake

    Just been watching the new clips released by the Kelly Slater Wave Co of some of the lady CTers who’ve been there recently. Have you seen them yet?

    To be honest I wasn’t overly impressed , especially with Lakey’s , she looked a bit unbalanced and not very smooth (I was thinking that’s how I’d probably look if I surfed there!, I’m a reasonable surfer but far from professional) . I think I was comparing them without really thinking about it to Steph’s session there , so I watched hers again, and to be honest she looked so much better a whole level above them. What do you think ?

  80. Bobby

    The Wayne Rich episode should be put down as one of the best Surf Splendor podcasts released. David knew exactly when to pry and when to back off to get the strongest stories and most genuine moments. The post-production for this episode added a lot too, from the intro through the intermittent breaks, which were well-timed and helped generate flow. The story-telling and surfboard intricacies that Wayne Rich shared were exactly what we listen for in a surf podcast. It was like time-traveling to the golden past of California’s surf culture. Great job, and thank you again. Happy Thanksgiving.

    1. Justin

      Agreed, the South Bay history is always great to hear from different perspectives. My only disappointment was when Wayne started to get into what he’s learned about fin placement and David didn’t pry and we didn’t gleam any knowledge. Love all the shaper pods, keep them coming!

  81. Adam Neale

    Hey Guys,
    I just ponied up for the year at $5 a month. Thanks for all your time and hard work for your previous podcasts. I really enjoy all your shows and especially your shaper interviews. Through interviews I have gone on to buy boards from Sean Mattison, Donald Brink, Josh Martin and Maurice Cole. All of them have been winners. Nothing keeps you surfing like a new board. We live in a golden age of equipment! Love that your podcast highlights it and love hearing what you are riding and how it feels. Your recent Marc Andrenini interview was inspiring too, I am looking forward to his book. If you ever head North of the Golden Gate give me a shout !
    in Gratitude,

  82. Kasper Kewenter

    Hi guys!

    Just a short and fast comment while in the middle of listen to the lates of all great episodes…

    Unfortunately, D. Trump is a hazard not only too US Markets, Politics and Environmental issues but also too the rest of the world. Here is just one example that will affect fellow surfers and nature lovers (corny as it sounds)… Not sure if you have discussed this before but anyway.. worth a re-post anyway.


    Lot´s of stoke
    from “the Swedish socialist”, as named by Scott after an earlier email that I send :)
    Thanks a million for another amusing and educational podcast :)

  83. Drew Hilton

    Hi Guys, love the podcast. 2 points;

    1. I actually found the women at Jaws more interesting to watch. The fact that they were getting caught inside, injured, caught out of position on the shoulder, wiping out, a lot of ths elements that the men have largely mastered, meant that there was more going on, different things to talk about and it showed very clearly why the place is so scary and difficult to surf, which we assume, but rarely get to see examples of, as excellent commentators talk us through it. It was a bit like watching the average surfer experience of going outside their confort zone. Really interesting as a average surfer that isnt in the industry.

    2. Loved both the Jaws commentators, and the Titans commentators when they did the live stream via facebook. Super interesting hearing all the really detailed insights about how the breaks work, the background of some of the surfers. The commentary made it for me.

    Cheers and keep up the good work.

  84. Rebecca

    I get that the women’s heats at Jaws left something to be desired. But at least you could get EMILY Erickson’s name right. She is a legit accomplished big wave surfer and suffered a serious injury. Show some respect.

  85. B Mac


    Fantastic interview with Marc Andreini. I listened to it last night and will do so again today. The guy has everything a great surfer should have plus more.

  86. Bryan Cass

    Hi David,
    I am a huge fan of the podcast! From listening I have gathered that you enjoy the vino. As a thank you for all the rad shows I have enjoyed, I want to send you some of our wine as a thank you. http://www.casswines.com

    If that is okay, what is a good address to ship to? (that an adult can sign for…) Also, are there any particular varietals you prefer or like to avoid? We specialize in Rhone varietals but also make Cab, Zin, and Malbec.

    The winery is in Paso Robles, we opened in 2005… if you are ever up here and are interested, you need to come to Cass for a barrel tasting or lunch or both, I will hook it up with the “VIP” experience! Would also be fun to surf together if in the cards!

    Really appreciate all the hard work you guys do and feel free to share the vino with Scott.


    Bryan Cass
    General Manager
    Cass Winery
    instagram: surf_sommelier
    cell: (805)610-2952
    work: (805)239-1730 x103

  87. casey

    appreciate you’re nuanced and honest conversations on the lineup.
    I don’t get to surf often (live 1000 miles from any coast), and the biggest barrier for me improving is getting way less waves than everyone else. (I start to take off, someone else goes… i’m pretty sure I have priority, but not sure enough, so I end up backing off…. or they get mad because I don’t go hard enough down the line… Or they are just more nimble than me, so always get better position.)
    So getting hints about those other folks think helps.

  88. Gigs Celliers

    Hey guys
    Only recently discovered your site and podcast and will continue not only to plug into future casts but also work my back through the archive
    I have been doing some WSL commentary recently and enjoying the vision and advancement of where our sport is headed

    As I continue hopefully growing In that role I certainly will be feeding off your guys opinions and expanding my own understanding

    Keep up the good work
    At the bottom of Africa

  89. Lucas

    Hi David and Scott!!

    I´m a big fan of the show and thanks for doing it.

    I´m quite surprised and upset because you both didn´t say a word about the horrible style ( one foot on the tail one foot on the nose) and also all the claiming that matt wilkinson did on the first events of the year…Dude how much shit adriano gets from you guys all the time!!! looks like your criteria is based on the colour of their passaport??

    what happened with the interviews?? those are the best please bring new ones with shapers!

    there´s any with chris chirsteson?

    saludos from centroamerica!


  90. Buck Tangram

    Come on lads I know January is a slow month but Im hanging for a bit of back and forth. Lets get this ball rolling.

  91. Luugart

    What can you comment about the photo of Kelly riding the wave pool in trunks?! Photo shop? Has this thing been up and running since last summer?? Talk about it!!

  92. Kevin Hamor

    Hey David,

    Thanks for continuing to put out such a great show with Scott. It’s nice to to have relevant surf news delivered to the masses on a consistent basis for free!

    I wanted to mention something from a few shows back in regards to The Brad Melekian’s Andy Irons book. Back in October the book came up for pre-order on Amazon and they said the book will be out in April of 2106. I then received notice that the book is no longer available and that they were not sure if it will ever be sold. Now when I go into my Amazon account, it does not give me the option to order the book and says it will not be avalaible in July of 2017. It all sounds a bit fishy to me. I would love for you guys to dig in and see what the issue is. Where there is smoke there is fire, right? Is this a possible legal block from the Irons Family? If it is, shame on them for not letting Brad tell the truth about Andy and what was really going on in his life.

    Thanks for putting on a good show and keep up the good work!

    Kevin Hamor

  93. Craig

    Great episode and I love Beach Grit, it is my first stop on the internet.
    My only comment is what is up with Chas and “I reckon”
    Santa Barbara

  94. Km

    Hello David, thanks for all of the great poscasts. Where do i find the earlier podcasts? On the “feed” it only goes back to episode 057, nothing earlier is listed.

  95. Bob Rogers

    KP seems to be doing a good job as commissioner but he needs some simple media coaching. When being interviewed on camera, you either look at the interviewer or at the camera, not both. KP’s constant shifting of his eyes from interviewer to camera is unnerving and annoying. I wonder if anybody’s ever told him. Or maybe it’s just me.

  96. Bob Rogers

    Regarding Felipe’s Tahiti heat, I didn’t watch the whole thing but you said he was comboed in the first 3 minutes. Seems pretty typical that if a guy’s in that situation he figures there’s no point in taking off on any wave that doesn’t look like it could be an 8. Maybe Felipe never saw a potential 8 so he didn’t bother taking off.

  97. Paulo

    The podcast is great! I really appreciate your work here. Thanks. I have been learning a lot about surf history and surf in SoCal.
    Any chance on interviewing Skyp Frye? That would be extremely interesting and rich.
    Keep doing the amazing work!
    (PS as a Brazilian leaving in SD, I agree with a lot of the “complains” and impressions on the Brazos, althought some are just incorrect, but still funny)

  98. Mark Hollister


    Excited to hear about the 20 or so people signed up in Surf Splendor Fantasy Gaming Club. Any chance of listing who signed up. It would be fun to keep track of who is winning as the contest progresses. Now that it has started we can see other player’s teams.

    I was amazed to hear that neither of you had Filipe on your team. His dominance at Snapper was something I have not seen since Kelly’s glory days. He was faster and more confident then anyone else in the water. I am also confused that you both believe his style does not lend well for Bells. The forecast looks small and he made quarter finals in 2013. He did look bad in round one, but I hope in the end Filipe and myself prove you both wrong.

    Love the Show,

    1. DS Post author

      Markfish, I’ll post the Gaming Club names in the comment section on FantasySurfer.com. Based on Filipe’s performance in round 2 at Bells today, you are clearly correct. He looked very good, with more room for improvement (he bogged a few rails). My team absolutely fell apart today. I’m horrible at this!


  99. Paul

    Hello from S.Korea. I am surfing in a place where surfing was unheard of less than 5 years ago so the surf culture is still very new and developing. Although shops and brands are jumping onto the growing surf scene in Korea for money, there are absolutely no publications that carry surf culture, news, photos etc. to the depth that you guys have. The existence of both down the line and surf splendor talk shows has allowed me to dive deeper into the surf culture of the past and present and I am thankful for that. I hope you and your show the best.

    Oh and here is a link to a clip of surfing on a good day on the east side of peninsula. Just in case you were curious.

    p.s: I have a question for you guys, a ASP qualifying series event was held in Korea before. What year was it and where was it?

  100. Kazuo

    Justin, the reason SUP’s and bodyboarders don’t get respect here is because it’s much easier then paddle surfing. SUP’s tend to hog the waves in already crowded lineups and then ride with no style or athletic display, limited by the length/size of their board or ability. Bodyboarders are able to take off in the white wash, and don’t usually do anything impressive to watch. Much respect to the bodyboarders charging heavy slabs though, that’s freaking incredible!! I think SUP’s are appropriate for tiny waves and body boards are appropriate for hollow stuff. I respect skills, not crutches. I must admit, Davids respect for grammar and spelling makes me hesitant to write at all….

    1. Justin


      Sorry for the late reply. I get it most that the majority of SUPS and bodyboarders we see aren’t usually as skilled as prone paddling surfers but I guess my point is as long as people aren’t dicks in the water I’d like to see more people stoked for each other than writing each other off. And like Scott said during the podcast, people using whatever board is best suited for the day and spot and disregarding our egos as much as possible and enjoying the waves and ocean to the fullest.

      Dave, thanks for the shout out the other week on the air. For Fantasy Surfer how about $10 for each contest and $20 for the whole season? Looking forward to the quik pro recap and first money round at bells!

  101. Justin

    Hey David,

    Meant to email this last week. Just started listening to the podcasts a few weeks ago, stoked! Had listened to Bassy’s down the line podcast a few times in the past and downloaded a month or so ago for some background noise while I was working. You guys got me hooked now! Good stuff! Entertaining and surprisingly inciteful! Especially enjoy the interviews with the surfers and industry guys- but you guys occasionally have some good points too! JK. In all seriousness, both shows are real entertaining with a good blend of humor and thought provoking surf dialogue.
    Which brings me to my question. Two weeks ago you posted the video of Fergal Smith’s series growing where he talks about farming and surfing in Ireland, great vid but the clip I thought was most interesting out of that series is the one where he talks about how he’s recently started Bodyboarding on the smaller days due to the fickle and steep, ledging nature of the local reefs.
    I just thought that was cool and in this age of “ride anything,” at least in Southern California, that doesn’t usually translate to bodyboards. So I was just wondering if you guys could touch on that in your next episode? Why is there sometimes tension between surfers and “spongers” specifically in SoCal and maybe California in general but not as much as in places like Hawaii or apparently Ireland. I feel like the debate could also be extended to SUP and why they aren’t universally accepted in lineups across California whereas again in Hawaii they’re more generally accepted. And just to tie in another previous topic/episode, I listened to the Zack Weinburg episode where you discuss surfing bigotry for lack of a better term, and I was just wondering what your guys’ feelings were on surfers’ intolerance of other waveriders and or even waveriders of other races. I know most surfers would not like to think of themselves as sort of “surf bigots” but I know where I come from and I feel like truly most surfers aren’t the liberal “the earth and waves belong to everyone” “hippie -type” persona we’re portrayed as and in fact the opposite is true.

    Anyway, there’s a lot there and just thought it’d be interesting to here you’re take on it. I’ve pasted a link to a Stab mag article on based off Fergal’s clip which also includes the clip in it. http://stabmag.com/5-things-that-bodyboarders-have-taught-surfers/

    Thanks guys and keep up the good work!

  102. Scott Overland

    Hi David,
    Longtime listener and fan of Down The Line where I was introduced to Surf Splendor. Stoked on the introduction and have been catching up on some of your episodes whilst on the road. For the most part I have found the Splendor casts very entertaining and engaging. Long form they are, the ending and opening comments about the broadcast can be a bit redundant. But beyond that I have been enjoying the stories.
    I grew up in the 70’s and remember how Lightening Bolt dominated the mags back then. Cool to hear about Tom Parrish role in that company and of course his role in the birth of the mega brand Quicksilver. Fascinating to hear how he helped turned a full Aussie brand into a mainstay in Hawaii! What a coup! In so many things in life its all about the relationships and his strong ties to the surf shops allowed an alien brand to dominate in the very territorial birthplace of surfing.
    That story contrasted nicely with the Chas Smith piece. He is quite the personality to say the least, talk about opionated and brash yet he still was able to penetrate the hardcore North Shore scene and succeed in telling a compelling story. I am impressed with his ability to shed light in the darker arenas of our sport and survive. He had no ties to the locals and yet somehow he fosters a relationship with one of the most heavy NS guardians! His relationship to Eddie is hard to believe but yet it exists. Beach Grit is entertaining in a way the you cant help but look at a car wreck. Crazy allegations and stories with rumor and truth abound. I want to hate but cant help but visit the site. I look forward to the refinement of the site as they grow the site.
    We need voices like Chaz in surfing so that we don’t become to vanilla as the sport marches toward mainstream acceptance thru the WSL platform.
    Thanks for the entertaining podcasts David and a send a big “Yah Guy” to Bassy for me.

  103. William

    Hi, i’m a big fan of your show from Nova Scotia, Canada. I’m currently on a surf trip to Morocco where i’m stuck in bed due to food poisoning. Thankfully I got your podcasts to listen to. i really enjoyed that last one, I read the book a couple months ago and I highly recommend it.


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