DAVE PRODAN, WSL’S VP OF COMMUNICATION

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The WSL’s VP of Communication Dave Prodan is the guest on today’s show. Dave’s a regular listener of Surf Splendor so he was eager to address many of the issues that David (Scales) and Scott have speculated about for years. Topics include, alternate judging formats, including a Big Wave Tour event into the ‘CT schedule, a “Major’s” concept for the ‘CT, and much more. Enjoy today’s show. Let us know your thoughts on Dave and perhaps we can invite him back as a semi regularly guest. Thanks for playing Dave!

Full show notes to come. Check back in about 12 hours!

Scott Bass and Dave Prodan at the Surfing Heritage and Culture Center

Scott Bass and Dave Prodan at the Surfing Heritage and Culture Center

40 thoughts on “DAVE PRODAN, WSL’S VP OF COMMUNICATION

  1. William

    Hi, i’m a big fan of your show from Nova Scotia, Canada. I’m currently on a surf trip to Morocco where i’m stuck in bed due to food poisoning. Thankfully I got your podcasts to listen to. i really enjoyed that last one, I read the book a couple months ago and I highly recommend it.

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  2. Scott Overland

    Hi David,
    Longtime listener and fan of Down The Line where I was introduced to Surf Splendor. Stoked on the introduction and have been catching up on some of your episodes whilst on the road. For the most part I have found the Splendor casts very entertaining and engaging. Long form they are, the ending and opening comments about the broadcast can be a bit redundant. But beyond that I have been enjoying the stories.
    I grew up in the 70’s and remember how Lightening Bolt dominated the mags back then. Cool to hear about Tom Parrish role in that company and of course his role in the birth of the mega brand Quicksilver. Fascinating to hear how he helped turned a full Aussie brand into a mainstay in Hawaii! What a coup! In so many things in life its all about the relationships and his strong ties to the surf shops allowed an alien brand to dominate in the very territorial birthplace of surfing.
    That story contrasted nicely with the Chas Smith piece. He is quite the personality to say the least, talk about opionated and brash yet he still was able to penetrate the hardcore North Shore scene and succeed in telling a compelling story. I am impressed with his ability to shed light in the darker arenas of our sport and survive. He had no ties to the locals and yet somehow he fosters a relationship with one of the most heavy NS guardians! His relationship to Eddie is hard to believe but yet it exists. Beach Grit is entertaining in a way the you cant help but look at a car wreck. Crazy allegations and stories with rumor and truth abound. I want to hate but cant help but visit the site. I look forward to the refinement of the site as they grow the site.
    We need voices like Chaz in surfing so that we don’t become to vanilla as the sport marches toward mainstream acceptance thru the WSL platform.
    Thanks for the entertaining podcasts David and a send a big “Yah Guy” to Bassy for me.

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  3. Justin

    Hey David,

    Meant to email this last week. Just started listening to the podcasts a few weeks ago, stoked! Had listened to Bassy’s down the line podcast a few times in the past and downloaded a month or so ago for some background noise while I was working. You guys got me hooked now! Good stuff! Entertaining and surprisingly inciteful! Especially enjoy the interviews with the surfers and industry guys- but you guys occasionally have some good points too! JK. In all seriousness, both shows are real entertaining with a good blend of humor and thought provoking surf dialogue.
    Which brings me to my question. Two weeks ago you posted the video of Fergal Smith’s series growing where he talks about farming and surfing in Ireland, great vid but the clip I thought was most interesting out of that series is the one where he talks about how he’s recently started Bodyboarding on the smaller days due to the fickle and steep, ledging nature of the local reefs.
    I just thought that was cool and in this age of “ride anything,” at least in Southern California, that doesn’t usually translate to bodyboards. So I was just wondering if you guys could touch on that in your next episode? Why is there sometimes tension between surfers and “spongers” specifically in SoCal and maybe California in general but not as much as in places like Hawaii or apparently Ireland. I feel like the debate could also be extended to SUP and why they aren’t universally accepted in lineups across California whereas again in Hawaii they’re more generally accepted. And just to tie in another previous topic/episode, I listened to the Zack Weinburg episode where you discuss surfing bigotry for lack of a better term, and I was just wondering what your guys’ feelings were on surfers’ intolerance of other waveriders and or even waveriders of other races. I know most surfers would not like to think of themselves as sort of “surf bigots” but I know where I come from and I feel like truly most surfers aren’t the liberal “the earth and waves belong to everyone” “hippie -type” persona we’re portrayed as and in fact the opposite is true.

    Anyway, there’s a lot there and just thought it’d be interesting to here you’re take on it. I’ve pasted a link to a Stab mag article on based off Fergal’s clip which also includes the clip in it. http://stabmag.com/5-things-that-bodyboarders-have-taught-surfers/

    Thanks guys and keep up the good work!

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  4. Kazuo

    Justin, the reason SUP’s and bodyboarders don’t get respect here is because it’s much easier then paddle surfing. SUP’s tend to hog the waves in already crowded lineups and then ride with no style or athletic display, limited by the length/size of their board or ability. Bodyboarders are able to take off in the white wash, and don’t usually do anything impressive to watch. Much respect to the bodyboarders charging heavy slabs though, that’s freaking incredible!! I think SUP’s are appropriate for tiny waves and body boards are appropriate for hollow stuff. I respect skills, not crutches. I must admit, Davids respect for grammar and spelling makes me hesitant to write at all….

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    1. Justin

      Kazuo,

      Sorry for the late reply. I get it most that the majority of SUPS and bodyboarders we see aren’t usually as skilled as prone paddling surfers but I guess my point is as long as people aren’t dicks in the water I’d like to see more people stoked for each other than writing each other off. And like Scott said during the podcast, people using whatever board is best suited for the day and spot and disregarding our egos as much as possible and enjoying the waves and ocean to the fullest.

      Dave, thanks for the shout out the other week on the air. For Fantasy Surfer how about $10 for each contest and $20 for the whole season? Looking forward to the quik pro recap and first money round at bells!

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  5. Paul

    Hello from S.Korea. I am surfing in a place where surfing was unheard of less than 5 years ago so the surf culture is still very new and developing. Although shops and brands are jumping onto the growing surf scene in Korea for money, there are absolutely no publications that carry surf culture, news, photos etc. to the depth that you guys have. The existence of both down the line and surf splendor talk shows has allowed me to dive deeper into the surf culture of the past and present and I am thankful for that. I hope you and your show the best.

    Oh and here is a link to a clip of surfing on a good day on the east side of peninsula. Just in case you were curious.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOAc0cL2YTk

    p.s: I have a question for you guys, a ASP qualifying series event was held in Korea before. What year was it and where was it?

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  6. Mark Hollister

    David,

    Excited to hear about the 20 or so people signed up in Surf Splendor Fantasy Gaming Club. Any chance of listing who signed up. It would be fun to keep track of who is winning as the contest progresses. Now that it has started we can see other player’s teams.

    I was amazed to hear that neither of you had Filipe on your team. His dominance at Snapper was something I have not seen since Kelly’s glory days. He was faster and more confident then anyone else in the water. I am also confused that you both believe his style does not lend well for Bells. The forecast looks small and he made quarter finals in 2013. He did look bad in round one, but I hope in the end Filipe and myself prove you both wrong.

    Love the Show,
    Markfish

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    1. DS Post author

      Markfish, I’ll post the Gaming Club names in the comment section on FantasySurfer.com. Based on Filipe’s performance in round 2 at Bells today, you are clearly correct. He looked very good, with more room for improvement (he bogged a few rails). My team absolutely fell apart today. I’m horrible at this!

      David

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  7. Paulo

    Hi!
    The podcast is great! I really appreciate your work here. Thanks. I have been learning a lot about surf history and surf in SoCal.
    Any chance on interviewing Skyp Frye? That would be extremely interesting and rich.
    Keep doing the amazing work!
    Cheers
    Paulo
    (PS as a Brazilian leaving in SD, I agree with a lot of the “complains” and impressions on the Brazos, althought some are just incorrect, but still funny)

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  8. Bob Rogers

    Regarding Felipe’s Tahiti heat, I didn’t watch the whole thing but you said he was comboed in the first 3 minutes. Seems pretty typical that if a guy’s in that situation he figures there’s no point in taking off on any wave that doesn’t look like it could be an 8. Maybe Felipe never saw a potential 8 so he didn’t bother taking off.

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  9. Bob Rogers

    KP seems to be doing a good job as commissioner but he needs some simple media coaching. When being interviewed on camera, you either look at the interviewer or at the camera, not both. KP’s constant shifting of his eyes from interviewer to camera is unnerving and annoying. I wonder if anybody’s ever told him. Or maybe it’s just me.

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  10. Km

    Hello David, thanks for all of the great poscasts. Where do i find the earlier podcasts? On the “feed” it only goes back to episode 057, nothing earlier is listed.

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  11. Craig

    Great episode and I love Beach Grit, it is my first stop on the internet.
    My only comment is what is up with Chas and “I reckon”
    -Craig
    Santa Barbara

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  12. Kevin Hamor

    Hey David,

    Thanks for continuing to put out such a great show with Scott. It’s nice to to have relevant surf news delivered to the masses on a consistent basis for free!

    I wanted to mention something from a few shows back in regards to The Brad Melekian’s Andy Irons book. Back in October the book came up for pre-order on Amazon and they said the book will be out in April of 2106. I then received notice that the book is no longer available and that they were not sure if it will ever be sold. Now when I go into my Amazon account, it does not give me the option to order the book and says it will not be avalaible in July of 2017. It all sounds a bit fishy to me. I would love for you guys to dig in and see what the issue is. Where there is smoke there is fire, right? Is this a possible legal block from the Irons Family? If it is, shame on them for not letting Brad tell the truth about Andy and what was really going on in his life.

    Thanks for putting on a good show and keep up the good work!

    Kevin Hamor

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  13. Luugart

    What can you comment about the photo of Kelly riding the wave pool in trunks?! Photo shop? Has this thing been up and running since last summer?? Talk about it!!

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  14. Buck Tangram

    Come on lads I know January is a slow month but Im hanging for a bit of back and forth. Lets get this ball rolling.

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  15. Kasper

    A friendly reminder from a Swede that lovesyour show with all the friendly banter as well as the more in-depht stories. Regarding 2 february surf news. If somebody has the time to listen through 1 h 30 min of surf news brought to the world by you (yes I love it) well, then I´m sure that watching 10 minutes of Craig or Dillon wont be such a wast of time as you seem to feel. The fact that one “surf clipp or short movie” has less views then another might only be of importance to a sponsor or a brand and say nothing of the quality or “artistic value” in the actual movie. At least I hope that Dillon or Craig Anderson doesn´t feel that there “life captured” in film was a waste of time.. That a clip is short might actually be one reason why it will receive more views (taking for granted that it has something to show for it) but personally I hope that there will be space in the surfing world for both the “less” and the “more”. There are plenty of short clips with a lot of views that at least me consider “a waste of time” and that lead me to believe that quality or value can’t be defined in numbers. Less us only hope that creativity, skill and honest expression will triumph over revenue and Capitalistic interest.

    All the best to you guys, and Like I say. I love what your doing, since day one.
    Kasper

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  16. William

    Hi guys!

    Thanks for the interesting chat about risk vs safety surfing. I was a little surprised that you didn’t bring up the point of Julians surfing a few years back (2014?) when he had a hard time getting scores that he wanted. This is during a period when his surfing was crazy and many of his peers were talking about the technicality if his surfing, grab-variations and rawness that weren’t getting rewarded by the judges. He made changes in his surfing to give the judges what they want. He went from a 1-10point ride surfer to a steady 8 surfer. Hopefully he’ll catch on to the changes in judging where he can use his 8 skills in the lower rounds and pull out his gnarly surfing in the finals. He should calm down his claiming though…

    Yay!

    W

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  17. Lucas

    Hi David and Scott!!

    I´m a big fan of the show and thanks for doing it.

    I´m quite surprised and upset because you both didn´t say a word about the horrible style ( one foot on the tail one foot on the nose) and also all the claiming that matt wilkinson did on the first events of the year…Dude how much shit adriano gets from you guys all the time!!! looks like your criteria is based on the colour of their passaport??

    what happened with the interviews?? those are the best please bring new ones with shapers!

    there´s any with chris chirsteson?

    saludos from centroamerica!

    Lucas

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  18. Jason Ramsey

    Hey Love the show, I don’t know if it missed anything where you mentioned what I am about to ask, but where did the more personal interviews go? I love the surf news, but the more personal interviews were great. Thanks.

    -Jason

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  19. John

    Hey David and Scott,

    I agree the with Jason the personal interviews are great. Another person you should consider interviewing is Manuel Caro of Mandala Surfboards. I’ve go a couple of his boards and they’re incredibly fast. Not to mention he’s a cool cat too.

    I’m nearly finished binge listening to your old podcasts, and when I’m done you guys are going to need to step it up.

    One other thing, I did take a listen to the guys that do that Australian podcast Ain’t That Swell. Those guys are friggin hilarious. They should let the two of you and those guys call the next event.

    P.S. When Scott is prepared the podcast is 10X better. Just sayin….

    -johnsurfsuppers

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  20. Pobby Brown

    Just a heads up for a potential must-see moment, or moments at 24 frames per second.

    Fire and Water is a film that is making the rounds at certain festivals and includes rare home movies of Don Gums Eichen on HI’s North Shore circa his infamous face plant. It also goes on to explore Eichen’s legacy as a surfer and as the patriarch of a surfing family of NYC Firefighters.

    Check it out
    http://www.fireandwaterthemovie.com/

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  21. Bazzle

    What? A new episode and the amazing RedBull Cape Fear event was not mentioned?
    Duuuuuudes!!!!??!
    Did you see any of that footage?

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